Pat Comber

Monday, January 25, 2015

Dear Eoin and Nora:

It was lovely to hear from you and many thanks indeed for the information you enclosed. Your spot, or page in Google (sorry but I don?t know the correct name for it) is very interesting indeed, especially for us ancestor hunters, and the name you chose for it I thought very apt. Well, I?ll tell you a little bit about us here in Argentina and how I understand we are connected: My father was Charles Thomas Thornton Comber and my mother, Elizabeth Marian Haining Stott. My father?s parents were: Charles Proby Cautley Comber and Juana Mar?a Buchanan. He and three brothers and a cousin emigrated to Argentina towards the end of the 19th century. My father was born in Buenos aires, but he was sent to school in England, to St. Edmund?s at Ware.

My grandfather (on my father?s side) and his other brothers and a sister were the children of Charles Thomas Comber Vicar of Abbots Bickingham N.Devon and of Rohesia Mary Giffard (my great- grandparents). Charles Thomas comber was one of the sons (there seem to have been many of them, also according to Google) of Henry George Wandesford Comber, Rector of Oswaldkirk and of Hester Cautley, and brother of Harriet Comber, who married Joseph Woodhead. Henry Gorge Wandesford Comber was my great great grandfather. He and his brothers and sisters were the children of Thomas Comber who had also been Rector of Oswaldkirk besides other previous appointments and who married Elizabeth Coote. His father was, as far as I can make out also a Thomas Comber who married Anne Wilson, he seems to have been Deputy Lord Lieutenant of Yorkshire and J.P. His father was Thomas Comber sometime Dean of Durham who married Alice Elizabeth Thornton. Her parents were William Thornton of East Newton and Alice Wandesford whose father was Sir Christopher Wandesford (or Wandesforde), Lord Deputy of Ireland (I?ve lost track of all the greats!). I found of great help in Google, some entries titled:John Rivers alias Comber of Balcombe (Rivers was the original sur name of the Comber family, then it became Rivers alias Comber and later just Comber. (the Rivers name might have come from a Plantagenet illegitimate child, of which there seem to have been many, but there is no proof, so it remains a family legend, and the “alias” part sounds very odd indeed, almost like something out of the police chronicles!), there are several entries that refer to the “Rivers alias Comber of Balcombe: Inquiries”, 2 – Archiver. and likewise 3, 4, 5 and 6, all of them .Archiver, which belongs to “Rootsweb”. As some of your ancestors were o Wandesfords and the Thorntons of East Newton, then one of your ancestors was also Robert Thornton who, in the 15th. century amused himself by copying (by hand) any manuscript he could get hold of by borrowing (I do hope he remembered to return them to their owners) and so made a collection of stories, poems legends and medicinal recipies for his own and his family?s use and entertainment. One volume was given to Lincoln Cathedral Library by Dr. comber (Alice Thornton?s husband) the other volume somehow ended up in what is now the British Library. They are known as “The Thornton Romances” or “The Thornton Mss.”, and are considered a very valuable source for the study of Middle English literature as after the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII many original manuscripts were destroyed or lost. Thanks to the kindness of the people at Lincoln University, I have been able to get hold of a facsimile copy of one of the pages of the volume of “The Thornton Romances” which is kept in the Cathedral Library. They sent it to me by e-mail just before Christmas last year. Should you be interested, I can send you a copy by mail -the handwriting is lovely to look at but the lettering is quite different from our present lettering, more like Gothic script and the English is so very ancient that one can t make out the meaning of the words. ? shall try and get hold of a copy of the ” Memoirs of the Life and Death of the Honorable the Lord Deputy Wandesforde” you mentioned you are reading. I found it on line in Google but it is rather difficult to follow on the computer screen, Amazon have it in softback edition but not in the e-book format and I doubt that any book shop here would have it, so I shall have to ask one of my nephews, who has an air pilot friend who comes and goes from the States to get it for me there. I do have Alice Thornton?s Autobiography, in softback and also on a CD as well as “Memoirs of the Life and Writings of Dr. Comber? written by his great great grandson, also a Comber, copied on a CD. Please excuse such a long letter. It?s lovely to know that one has relatives, although distant, in such unexpected places, and all thanks to Google!

Yours very sincerely,
Pat?Comber

Thornton Romances

Dear Nora: I?m sending you the reproduction of a page from the “Thornton Romances” sent to me by Lincoln University.? I do hope that it arrives safely and not accompanied by bits and pieces of all the correspondance involved in acquiring it as my computer skills are very few save a little e-mailing and digging around in Google. Thank you very much for the reproduction of the portrait of our ancestors. I had come across it quite often in Google but never imagined that one day descendants of Harriet Comber and of her brother would be in touch!?Very sincerely.?Pat – Helena Patricia Comber
helena
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Dear Pat,
It was very good to hear from you and?really interesting to learn that we have so?many cousins in South America,
I am a relative newcomer to?Wandesforde?other than?to know that many of our ancestors used his name. You’ve seen the report of my visit with my grandson?to?Christcurch?Cathedral and I trust separately you have seen the extensive notes we kindly received from StuartKinsella, the archivist there.
I’ve just been reading “Memoirs of the life and death of the Right Honourable the Lord Deputy?Wandesforde: collected from authentic records and?MSS. by his great great grandson Thomas Comber,…Second edition.” This is a wonderful account, written in 1777 in Old English, which takes a little getting used to. It’s published by?ECCO, History and Geography and came on line from?Wordery. I don’t know the price because my sister gave it to me for Christmas, it’s softback. He? certainly achieved a great deal in a short lifetime, especially in his last few years in Ireland. I visited?Castlecomber?recently and discovered that the?Wandesford?family only sold up and left?Castlecomberin the 1960s?when they?moved to England. The house was demolished and it is now a public park called?Castlecomber?Discovery Park with plenty of references to?Wandesforde, you’ll see it on line.
Our?family’s connection is as follows;
Our great grandmother was;
Clemintina?Woodhead, her father?was;
H.J.P.?Woodhead?(Brighton) 1829-1903, his mother was;
Harriett Comber 1793-1872, her father was;
Thomas Comber 1765-1835, his father was;
Thomas Comber 1722-1779, his father was;
Thomas Comber 1688-1765, his parents were;
Alice Elizabeth Thornton 1653-1720,?and Thomas Comber, Alice’s mother was;
Alice?Wandesforde?1626-1720 and her father was;
Sir Christopher?Wandesforde?1592- 1640.
Much of this (and a lot more)?has kindly been given to us by Judy Bennett from England. Judy (like you, discovered us on line) is the granddaughter of H.G.W.?Woodhead?1844-1959, a very interesting man, you’ll find him on Google. I’ll pass on your email to?Judy and she may get in touch. I know that Judy is presently in US so there might be a delay.
It would be interesting to know when?your ancestors went off across the Atlantic!
My sister Netta and I live?near Dublin. We’re adding to our Dear Grandchildren all the time and are delighted to hear from another? cousin.
Yours sincerely
Eoin?Hickey.

Mary Rose Mulvany of Dunsany

REMEMBERING MRS. ELIZABETH HICKEY

I was never particularly interested in history until Maurice Mulvany, Anthony?s Dad, died. I was?introduced to so many cousins etc. at the funeral that I asked Anthony?s aunt, Alice Lynch, to explain?the maternal and paternal ?family trees? to me. This sparked an interest in Killeen as the Mulvany?family, we discovered, had been tenant farmers since at least the mid-eighteenth century but probably?for much longer. Many of them were, in fact, buried in the old overgrown graveyard beside the?manorial church. Then, of course, I wanted to know who lived in the castle?

A year or two later, meeting Mrs. Hickey for the first time at a function in Fox?s, I mentioned that I?had collected quite a bit of material which I would pass on to anyone interested in putting together a?history of Killeen Castle. She encouraged me to have a go at it myself and to remember not to worry?if it took a good few years to achieve ? that was normal!

Over the years I got lots of advice from her and still have a letter with important points to remember?about publishing. She kindly wrote the ?blurb? for the back of the cover. Naturally, she came to the?launch in April 1991 and insisted on looking after the sale of books. (We had published History of?Killeen Castle and republished ?70 Years Young?, Memories of Elizabeth, Countess of Fingall). I?mentioned her kindness at the launch in Dunsany Castle (as Randal Plunkett had offered us his home?as the venue). Both Mrs. Hickey and Sheila Dunsany received bouquets.

Shortly after, the same year, my friend Vicky von Schmieder and I were at a ?Save the Corncrake??coffee morning in Skryne Castle. (I remember Vicky telling me that Carl stayed in Skryne Castle as a??pg? after purchasing Corbalton.)

The launch of Skryne and the Early Normans in 1994 was a very special evening. Vicky and I were at?Finnstown House and the book is a treasured masterpiece.

In February, 1996, I spent a weekend in Ballyvaughan with Mrs. Hickey, Michelle Clarke and Vicky.

I think Mrs. Hickey was taking Michelle under her wing as she had just returned from South Africa?and separated from her husband. Vicky asked me if I would join them and, as it was a birthday?weekend for me, Anthony told me to go and enjoy! We had a lovely two nights in the knowledgeable?company of Mrs. Hickey and other historians from all over Ireland. One of the days we visited a?church that had been de-roofed and gutted at the time of the reformation and there was a lot of ooh?s?and ahh?s about the ruin ? Mrs. Hickey said quietly to me ?Mary Rose you would know that all the?medieval churches in England are still intact and in use. They just changed the detail on the notice?board outside?! Then in the graveyard she quoted a verse from an old headstone:

I had several excursions to Dublin with Mrs. Hickey. We were at a house in Ely Place which the?Georgian Society had recently restored and also the Genealogy Office and National Library in Kildare?Street. She showed me where the family apartment was on Stephen?s Green.?Over the years we kept in touch and one day my daughter Clodagh and two friends called to the castle?to see Mrs. Hickey. One of her dogs had just had puppies and she instantly christened the three little?bitches in the litter ? Clodagh, Cabrini and Jennifer! They were very flattered.

I called one day in 1997 to the castle with my friend Micheal O?Brien. He asked if he could come the?following summer to paint the castle with the flower garden in the foreground. We rang in 1998 to see?if Micheal could come but Mrs. Hickey said that she hadn?t been able to stake the delphiniums so the?garden was below par. Micheal said that there was one thing a painter could do that a photographer?couldn?t ? he?d stand the delphiniums upright in his painting. He duly did and Eoin, Robin or Peter?bought it. Micheal also painted the avenue with the cyclamens in bloom for Netta.

Having already acquired his first swarm of bees a good years previous from Mrs. Hickey, Anthony?received a telephone call from her in the late Autumn of 1998 to come and get some of the cyclamens?that Mary Rose admired. As he hadn?t appeared promptly she telephoned again to say that time was?running out for her and to come and collect the plants. He hastened over and we have Skryne?cyclamens and night-scented stock as a constant and wonderful reminder of Mrs.Hickey.

I called, having telephoned 046 25155 first, around December 1998 on my way home from work and?we sat chatting at a lovely warm fire. The next time I visited was for her ?wake? and Anthony had a?glass of the good whiskey she had asked to be served!

MRM

24/03/2015

Update to Index

This is a revision to the original (2010) index of Dear Grandchildren where we have given page numbers instead of chapter numbers and added some updated information,

By Eoin Hickey and Netta Kealy (Hickey),

Notes: Where an entry is followed by a number, i.e.; Achill 14, the number refers to the page of reference in Dear Grandchildren.

Entries in italics were not included in the original book.

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Achill; holidays 1920s 14

Adelaide, First Dean of; James Farrell Jr. 1849 (g. g. uncle) 2, 86.

Aime?, Aunt; Patterson 5.

Alaxandra College; our mother?s school 14

Anila’s Journey, by Mary Finn; novel ?with more than walk in parts by Thomas Hickey? 25

Ascot, Cranbourn Corner; home of Dr GE Barron (our g. grandfather) 104

Ballydavid Castle; Co Tipperary, Barrons 104, 107

Barron and Shepherd Ltd; London, Harry Barron 106

Barron Dick; SA 104

Barron, Anthony Livingstone; (Tony, m. Mein), SA, first cousin of our father and brother of Bishop Paddy Barron 105, 106

Barron, Dick; SA, 104

Barron, Dr Gerald Edward (GE); (our g. grandfather) 104, 107

Barron, Ethel; SA; (our grandmother?s sister) 104

Barron, Harold and Mary; SA 104

Barron, Harry; Charles Henry Netterville, b1916 106,

Barron, Isabel; (our grandmother), m. Robert Hickey 19, 23, 102, 104, 106, 111, 108, 109

Barron, Jill; b.1946 and Diana b.1948, SA, daughters of Tony and Mein Barron 106

Barron, John Netterville; Ballydavid, b1849 (our g. g. grandfather) 104, 107

Barron, Louisette Jane; b1942, daughter of Harry, married to Lewis Braithwate 106

Barron, Martin; b1948 and Deborah b1950, SA, children of Bill and Theodora Barron 106

Barron, Nora; married Willie Dr 104

Barron, Paddy; Patrick Harold Falkiner, Bishop of George, (our father?s first cousin) SA 105

Barron, Percy; monk in Mount Melleray, (our g, g. uncle) 106, 107

Barron, Richard William; (Bill) b.1918, SA, married 1947 Theodora Byde Martin 105

Barron, Rosemary; SA, Sister Magdalene Mary, Lesotho 105, 106

Barron, Willie; Bill/William Netterville, Dr, (our g. uncle) 104, 111

Battersby, Eileen; Irish Times tribute to Elizabeth Hickey. 122.

Bective Bridge 6

Begley, Una 117

Bellinter Golf Club; now Royal Tara 7

Bennett, Judy; b.1949, UK, granddaughter of H. G. Wandesforde Woodhead, C.B.E. 1883-1959, editor of The Peking Times and Tientsin Times.? Judy has given us beautifully presented copies of ?? The Woodhead Family and Robert Comber Woodhead, Captain, 1886-1916, her great uncle, ?killed at the Battle of The Somme. Both of these reference HGW, Robert and other members of the Woodhead family in great detail.

Bielich, Admiral Cezar; 27

Bielich, Karita Maria; married EC Malet-Warden (our grandfather)? 27

Boston Pilot 122

Boyne; I Send My Love Along The Boyne by Elizabeth Hickey p1966 87

Brambell, Wilfred 16

Breconshire 49

Breeze, George; author Thomas Hickey and Ireland 25

Brian Boru; King 19

Brighton; home town of the Woodhead family 90

Brisco, Julia; first wife of RS Hickey, our grandfather 22

British Ministry of Defence; Hamish Malet-Warden 39

Brittish Rail H.Q. 21

Brownes; Barons of Kilmaine 107

Bruree, Co Limerick; Nora?s home 57

Bryda, Aunt; Woodruff 8, 29, 114

Burke, Edmond; portrait by Thomas Hickey 25

Burnchurch Castle; Co Kilkenny, (Barrons of Burnchurch) 104, 106 124

Byrne, Benedict; Sculpture 123

Callaghan; The Bundy and Stephen, Skryne 116

Callaghan; The Groom, Skryne 50

Callary. Fr; M.A.H.S. 122

Caple Street 19

Ceylon, Treasurer of; Charles Edward Ducat Pennycuick, Treasurer of Ceylon, (our g. grandfather) 76, ?? 89

Charles II 34

Cheney, Mr. and Mrs; Celbridge 4

Christian, Prince of Schieswig-Holstein; Dr GE Barron doctor to and also to Edward VII 104

Christian, Princess of Schieswig-Holstein; daughter (Helena) of Queen Victoria 104

Claflin, John; USA, married Camille Natta (cousin) 28

Clarke, Rev John; Navan 119

Clements, Emily; m H.J.P Woodhead (g. g. grandmother) 2, 89

Clements, Mrs; Mrs Clements? trunk 2

Clements, Rev. James Crook; (g. g .g. grandfather) 2, 89

Clonard; The Story of an Early Irish Monastery by Elizabeth Hickey 88

Collier, Paddy; Skryne 5

Conlon, Michael; Westmeath historian 23

Conway. Mrs; M.A.H.S. 122

Cooney, Fr.; PP Skryne 116

Country Shop, The; St Stephen?s Green, well known landmark 14, 16

Critchley’s, house; May 116

Crookedwood House; Rectory, Taughmon, Co. Westmeath, home Rev Noah Hickey (g, grandfather) ???? 118

Crookes, Rev Samuel; married our parents 20

Cruise O’Brien, Conor 25

Cunliffe, Aunt Edith; Woodhead, (g. g. aunt) 16, 92

Dalcaasion Hickeys 19

Danube Delta; bird watching, Elizabeth and Bryda 1989 115

D’Arcy, Elizabeth Buchanan; Hyde Park, (g. grandmother, m. Rev Noah Hickey) 22, 24

Davis, Donal; Dress Designer 16

deCarteret Street, London; called after ancestor? 34

deCarteret, Guy; half-nephew to our grandfather 27, 34

deCarteret, John; Earl of Granville, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in 1724 26

deCarteret, Sir Phillip; Signeur of Ouen, Jersey, (g. x 6 grandfather) 26

Delgany Church; John Hickey?s LaTouche sculpture 25

Delgany Church; Robert Hickey (our grandfather) married Julia Briscoe 1884 22

Derby 20

Derrygooney; Co Monaghan 52, 53, 54, 123

Diana; Princess 118

Dowth Hall 113

Drogheda Grammar School; (Netta?s school) 7, 56

Dublin University Missions 16

Duignan’s; house, Skryne 117

Dunsany Castle 114

Dunsany, Lady 114

Dunshaughlin Community School 114

East India Company; 1798 notes on Thomas Hickey 25

Edwards, Hilton 16

Elizabethville; New Jersey, called after ancestor 34

Elliot Herb 6

Emmerson, Terry 57

Emmett Robert; portrait by Thomas Hickey 25

Emmett, Dr Robert; father of Robert and patron of Thomas Hickey 25

Emmett, Mary; sister of Robert 25

Fairclough Richard; married Ethel Barron 1910, children Jimmy and Prue, SA 104

Falkiner, Nannie; (Aimee) (g. grandmother), married Dr GE Barron 104, 107

Falkiner, Richard Daniel; b.1818, (g. g. grandfather) 107

Farrell, Sarah; 1805-1878 (our g. g. grandmother), married John Pennycuick 85

Finn, Mary; (author of Anila?s Journey, novel ?with more than walk in parts by Thomas Hickey?) 25

Finnstown House Hotel; owned by Eoin and Nora Hickey 58

FitzGerald, Desmond 4

FitzGerald, Garrett 4

FitzGerald, Maurice; Baron of Naas 2

FitzMaurice, William; d1375, Baron of Burnchurch, ancestor 107

Forest Lawn Cemetery; LA, grave of Ambrose Hickey 23

Fox, Charles James; portrait by Thomas Hickey 25

Franks, Miss Lucy; friend of our mother and one of founders of ICA 16,

Freeman of City of Dublin; Noah Hickey, b1689, (our g x 4 grandfather) 19

Gahn, Muriel; one of founders of ICA 4

Gallagher, Karen 117

Gate Theatre 16

Gerald, Hickey; (uncle) 20

Governor General of Ireland; Sir Christopher Wandesforde, (our g x 6 grandfather) 91

Sir Christopher is buried in Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin. We received a kind letter and ?extensive account of Sir Christopher from Stuart Kinsella, Archivist at Christ Church. Judy ? Bennett has also has also sent us reports of members of her family?s visit to Kirklington ?Church and Kirklington Hall, and to Stonegrave to see the tombs and memorials to the ???????????? Combers and Thorntons.

??????????????? Memoirs of the life and death of the Right Honourable the Lord Deputy Wandsforde is a ?wonderful account, acquired by Netta, of Wandesforde?s life written by his great, great grandson in 1778.

 

Grafton Academy 16

Grandchildren; the number of children and grandchildren of us siblings, Robin, Peter, Eoin, Netta and ?? Caroline has grown since we wrote Dear Grandchildren (February 2010). Then there were ? 33, see page 3, now (February 2015) there are an additional twelve grandchildren; Robin and ?Kay?s are; Zach, Anna and Megan Eleanor. Peter and Geraldine?s are; Peadar and Sinead, ?Micheal, Mairead and Seamus. Eoin and Nora have Matthew. Netta has Matthew and ? Caroline has Alice and James Patrick,

Granville, Sir Richard 26

Green St. Court House 7

H.M.S Donegall; E.C. Malet-Warden, grandfather, served on 31

H.M.S. Minotaur; E.C. Malet-Warden, grandfather, served on 31

H.M.S. Saladin; E.C. Malet-Warden, grandfather, served on 31

H.M.S. Vanity; E.C. Malet-Warden, grandfather, served on 35

Halligan, Tommy, shopkeeper Skryne 116

Hampton Court Palace; home 1851-1878 to Sarah Pennycuick (Farrell), (our g. g. grandmother), and family 85

Handel?s Messiah 113

Hard Ridden; Derby winner 1958, at stud Killeen Castle 57

Hart, Kathleen 53

Haw Haw, Lord 39

Heathfield House; Woodhead summer home 98 ?Judy Bennett has given us a great deal of information, including photographs, of Heathfield House.

Hickey, Aiden; b1974 58, 104

Hickey, Ambrose; (g. uncle) 22

Hickey, Anna; (m. Aiden) 18, 58

Hickey, Aymee; aunt 106

Hickey, Blaney; India, brother of R.S Hickey, (our grandfather) 22

Hickey, Charlotte; sister of R.S Hickey, (our grandfather) 22

Hickey, Christina; b1972 58,

Hickey, Edmund; actor aka; Edward and Seymour 1755-1819, London, Covent Garden. Brother of ?artist Thomas and sculpture John.

Hickey, Edmund; India, brother of R.S Hickey, (our grandfather)? 22

Hickey, Elizabeth; (great aunt) m. Lethbridge 22

Hickey, Elizabeth; (our mother) 1, 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12

Hickey, Elizabeth publications;

The Legend Of Tara, 1952 87

I Send My Love Along The Boyne? p1966 87

Skryne And The Early Normans 1994 87

The Green Cockatrice 1978 by Elizabeth Hickey (aka Basil Iske) 87

The Irish Life of Saint Finian of Clonard 1995 88

CLONARD The Story of an Early Irish Monastery 88

Hickey, Eoin; yours truly, 58, 104

Hickey, Frances; daughter of artist Thomas 25

Hickey, Geraldine; married Peter, 23, 56, 85, 118, 121, 123

Hickey, Isabella; nee Barron, (our grandmother) 21

Hickey, John; Sculpture, (our g. g. g. uncle) 1756-1795 25

We understand there is a bust of Edmund Burke by John Hickey in the British Museum.

?Hickey, Kay; married Robin 1, 10, 11

Hickey, Netta; Elizabeth Netterville, yours truly, 7, 56, 57, 111

Hickey, Niall; b1976 58, 104, 126

Hickey, Noah,; b1689.? Confectioner, Caple Street and Freeman of Dublin (our g, g, g, g grandfather) 19

Hickey, Noah; b 1825.married Sophia Blaney Sutherland 1792, (our g. g. grandparents) 4

Hickey, Noel S.; (our father) 4, 11, 19, 107

Hickey, Nora; married Eoin 57, 104

Hickey, Rev. Noah Sydney; Rector Taughmon, Westmeath (our g. grandfather) 19

Hickey, Robert Sydney; (our grandfather) 22, 102, 104

Hickey, Rosemary; (our baby sister), died in infancy 5

Hickey, Shane; b1979 58

Hickey, Sylvia; (aunt) 106

Hickey, Thomas; Artist, 1741-1824, Artist (our g. g. g. uncle) 25

Hickey, William; (our father’s half-brother) 22

Hickey, William; d.1775, Violetstown, Co Westmeath, (our g. g. g. grandfather) 18

Hickey. Wilma; married to Robert William Fayrer Hickey of Penrith, Australia, g. g. g. grandson of Noah Hickey d.1825 and Sophia Blaney Sutherland m1792 (b. Stonehall). Wilma, as well as discussing the 1st and 2nd Dukes of Sutherland, has provided us with much information on Sophia Blaney Sutherland, and her father William Sutherland (1741-1789) including a detailed account of his military career. Of particular interest is his involvement in the Battle of ??? Lexington in 1775, the first engagement of the American Revolutionary War, and he even may have been responsible for firing the first shot!

High School, Dublin; Robin and Peter?s school 55

Hogg, Maria; d1834, Sarah Farrell?s mother, (our g. g. g. grandmother) 76

Holloden; Bagnalstown, Co Carlow, home to Esther O?Grady (Cousin Esther) nee Vigors 89

Hollymount; Co. Mayo, Barrons and Falkiners 104, 107

Horn Road; Brighton, Edith Woodhead lived here 100

Hubert, Mrs. Ann; Barrels of Gold, Jersey, Irish Times 1999 27

Husband, Annie; mother of EC Malet-Warden (our grandfather) and cousin of Sir Henry Royce (Rolls ???? Royce) 27

Hyde Park; Killucan, home to Elizabeth Buchanan D?Arcy, (our great grandmother), m. Rev Noah Hickey 23, 24

I.C.A.; Irish Countrywomen?s Association 4, 14, 47

Ingres, Jean-Auguste-Dominique; French artist, Woodhead sketch 1816 92, 93

International League of Antiquarian Booksellers; correspondence between Elizabeth Hickey and Enoch Powell MP., (which we have) 88

Irish Holiday Hostel Association; Robin Chairman of 56

Jackson, Michael; buried Forest Lawn Cemetery LA., as is Ambrose Hickey (our g. uncle) 23

Java; Lt. Col. John Pennycuick 1789-1849 (our g. g. grandfather), time in 78

Jersey; home of DeCarteret, our grandfather?s (EC Malet-Warden) father 26, 27

Jonesboro; home town of Geraldine, Peter?s wife 56

Jonkerbos War Cemetery; Netherlands, burial place of Hamish Malet-Warden (uncle) 39

Jury’s Hotel, Dublin; Robin?s workplace 56

Kats, Greg; family friends of Netta 56

Kats, Ian; family friends of Netta 56

Kats, Nicolas; family friends of Netta 56

Kats, Tuckerman; family friends of Netta 56

Kealy, Willie; married Netta 57

Kennedy, Jaqueline; Nora met with 57

Kennedy, President J.F.; Hickey grandparents 19

Kent; hop picking 14

Kilashee Church; Co Longford, Rev James Farrell 1759-1834 (g. g. g. grandfather), Curate of 85

Kilfree; Co. Sligo, Rev James Farrell Jr.,? (g. g. granduncle), Curate of 86

Killeen Castle; Stud Farm, Eoin spent two seasons training 57

Killucan; (Rev) Willie Falkiner, (our g. g. uncle) Rector of 103

Kilmaine; Co Mayo, (Falkiners) 107

Kilmessan; Co Meath, (Rev) Willie Falkiner, (our g. g. uncle) Rector of 103

King?s Hospital; Sir Frederick Falkiner, member of Board of Governors 103

King?s Hospital; Robin and Peter?s secondary school 55

Kinnehans; Tobacco Merchants father?s employer in 1940/50s 4, 20

Kinsella Stuart; Archivist Christ Church Cathedral, email 15/11/12, extensive notes on Sir ? Christopher Wandesforde, Lord Deputy of Ireland

??????????????? Memoirs of the life and death of the Right Honourable the Lord Deputy Wandsforde is a ?wonderful account, acquired by Netta, of Wandesforde?s life written by his great, great grandson in 1778

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Knight and Petch; Dress Designers 16

La Touche, David; sculpture monument to, by John Hickey (g. g. g. uncle) in Delgany Church 25

Larter, Catherine; SA, married Bishop Paddy Barron, 1941 (our father?s first cousin) 105

Le Maistre, Jane Anne; married John Malet 1859 27

Lethbridge, Rev. W; married to Elizabeth Hickey (great aunt) 22

Linden Nursing Home; where Caroline worked in care of retired President and Bean DeValera. 59

Lismullen; Tara, home of Sir Robert and Lady Synolda Dillon (nee Cholmondley-Clark) 100

Livingstone, Mary; SA, (m. Harold Barron, mother of Bishop Paddy) 105

London Zoological Society; Nicolas Vigors F.R.S. b1875 was first Secretary of 91

Ludlow; trip to, led by our mother 114

Macartney, Lord George; led Embassy to China 1792-1794 which included artist, Thomas Hickey 25

MacLiamoir, Michael; our mother worked with at Gate Theatre 16

Madeira; F. Richard Falkiner, Recorder of Dublin died here 103

Madras; Thomas Hickey, Artist and his daughter both buried here 25

Malet, John; 1766-1851 our grandfather?s (EC Malet-Warden) grandfather 26

Malet deCarteret, Col. Edward Charles; our grandfather?s (EC Malet-Warden) natural father 26 ? ??We have a copy of obituary for Col. E. C. Malet de Carteret, b.1838.

Malet-Warden, Agnes; (our grandmother) 8

Malet-Warden, Bronwyn; SA, married Ian 27

Malet-Warden, Charles; (uncle) 8, 27, 76

Malet-Warden, Edward; (Teddy), (mother?s half-brother) 36, 56,

Malet-Warden, Edward Cecil; (E.C.), (our grandfather) 8, 27 ? – Edward Cecil Malet-Warden 1885-1964. We have diaries, letters and naval history of E. C., ????? compiled by his son E. F. Malet-Warden (Teddy). Naval History starting in 1901, first ship served on (training) H.M.S. Vivid Division II in 1905 and finishing on H.M.S. Minos, Lowestoft in 1945, we also have a copy of obituary for Col. E. C. Malet deCarteret, b.1838, his father.

Malet-Warden, Elizabeth Agnes; (our mother) 4, 8, 5, 26, 89,

Malet-Warden, Hamish; (uncle) 38, 76

Malet-Warden, Ian; (cousin) SA 27, 104

Malet-Warden, Ingrid; (Ian?s wife) 5, 11

Malet-Warden, Jo; married Charles, our uncle 27

Malet-Warden, Margaux; Ian and Ingrid?s daughter 5

Malet-Warden, Marigold; (Wendy) (our mother?s half-sister) 36

Malet-Warden, Michael; Ian and Ingrid?s son 27

Malet-Warden, Nicola; Paris (our first cousin) 27, 28

Malet-Warden, Tracey; (our mother?s half-brother) 36

Manley, Mrs.; P.O. Tara 116

Mansion House; Painting of Viscount Townshend by Thomas Hickey 25

Marie Louise, Princess; daughter of Queen Victoria 104

Marzapore; P&O Steamer to India 22

Mc Gurl, Mrs.; one of founders of MAHS 1955 along with our mother 122

McInerney, Amby; McInerney Builders, Eoin?s employer 57

McLoud, Richard; Australia 56

McLoud, Suli; Teddy Malet-Warden?s daughter 56

Meath Archaeological and Historical Society; (MAHS) 88

Meath Chronical; tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 120

Meath County Library; have archive of some of Elizabeth Hickey?s papers 3

Meehan, Dr Bernard; Keeper of Manuscripts, T.C.D. archive of part of Elizabeth Hickey?s papers 121

Michael of Greece, Prince; visit to Skryne Castle 118

Montreaux Palace Hotel; Nora?s employer 57

Moore, Dr Beryl; one of founders of MAHS 1955 along with our mother 122

Mount Falcon; Co. Tipperary, Falkiners originally from 107

Mount Temple School; Hamish Malet-Warden attended 38

Mountjoy School; merged with Mount Temple School 38

Moydrum; near Kinnegad, our father and siblings brought up here 23

Moyne, Lord; Caroline?s employer 59

Murnane, Dr.; GP at Skryne 58

Murray, Thomas; Poet, tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 120

Nairn Academy; early school of our mother 117

Rose?s Academical Institution; Nairn, early school of our mother 8

National Gallery of Ireland; Thomas Hickey?s paintings hang in 25

Natta, Camille; Nicola, our cousin?s daughter 28

Natta, Gilbert; Nicola, our cousin?s husband 28

Natta, Laurent; Nicola, our cousin?s son 28

Natta, Nicola; our cousin 28

Natta, Noel; Nicola, our cousin?s son 28

Netterville; Home for Orphans 113

Netterville, Elizabeth of Snughborough; (our g. g. g. grandmother) 108, 111

Netterville, Nicholas; 5th Viscount, (our g. x 6 grandfather) 111

Nettervilles; Viscounts, (m. Elizabeth Barron 1841) 111, 113

New Jersey; called after ancestor 34

Newgrange 87

Newgrange Hotel; Navan 57

Newton-Stewart; Scotland, early home of our mother 8

Niven, David; Nora worked with? 57

Norfolk Terrace; Brighton Woodhead home 90. Description of 98

Nugent Family; Skryne, Caroline stayed with 7

Nugent, William; The Green Cockatrice, by Elizabeth Hickey 87

Oakes children; neighbours at Skryne 5

Oakes family; neighbours at Skryne 5

Oakes, Mr; neighbour at Skryne 5

O’Briens of Thomond; Hickeys physicians to 19

O’Connell children; neighbours at Skryne 5

O’Connell, Jimmy; publican at Skryne 116

O’Connell, Mrs; publican at Skryne 116

O’Connor, Kay; married Robin 1971 56

O’Flanagan, James Roderick: ?The Irish Bar?, account of Netterville trial 111

O’Grady; Cousin Esther, mother; Margret Woodhead b1850, lived Holloden, Co Carlow, 1966 tape ???????????? recording 89

O’Grady, Faith; Esther?s daughter 89

O’Grady, Phillip; Esther?s son 89

O’Grady, Standish; Esther?s husband 89

O’Grady, The; Gerald, Esther?s son 89

O’Mahony, Eoin; Pope, Historian and Broadcaster 4, 19

O’Mhathuna, Diarmuid; The O?Mahony Journal, tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 122

Opus Dei Institute; Lismullen, Tara, former home of Sir Robert Dillon 100

Orange Lodge of Ireland; Nicholas Netterville, Grand Master 1732 (g. x 6 grandfather) 111

O’Reilly, John Boyle; author, poet and editor of Boston Pilot, b1844 at Dowth Castle 122

O’Riordan, Prof. Sean archaeologist, excavations at Tara 42

O’Sullivan, Billy; Keeper of Manuscripts, T.C.D., 4

O’Sullivan, Nancy; wife of Billy 4

Patterson, George; married Aunt Aimee 13, 23.

We subsequently learned that George was related to Falkiners in Derry.

Pearson, Peter; writer 16

Pennycuick, Agnes; our grandmother 8, 26, 76, 89

Pennycuick, Alexander; (g. grand uncle), killed with his father at Battle of Chillianwallah 1849 85

Pennycuick, Charles Edward Ducat; Treasurer of Ceylon, (our g. grandfather) 76, 89

Pennycuick, James; our mother?s uncle 84

Pennycuick, John; 1841?1911 (our g. uncle) 78.

Colonel John Pennycuick, British Army Engineer was responsible for the construction of the Mullaiperiyar masonry dam on the Periyar River in India completed in 1895. A most ?popular and appreciated man, judging by the amount of correspondence we have received through the website since writing Dear Grandchildren. John was uncle of our grandmother Agnes, he married Grace Georgina Chamier in 1879 and their son, Sir John Pennycuick, became a High Court Judge.

??????????????? John is remembered in India today by a statue in Madurai, a memorial unveiled in 2013 at?Theni district, a new bus terminus in Theni and at the traditional Thai Pongal harvest festival.

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Pennycuick, Lt. Col. John C.B.? K.H.; (our g. g. grandfather 1789-1849, m. Sarah Farrell), killed, with his ??????? son Alexander, at Battle of Chillinwallah, Punjab 1849 77

Pennycuick, Mrs; (our g. grandmother) 8, 35

Pennycuick; parish, Scotland, 77

Pennycuick, Sir. John; (our grandmother?s first cousin) 1899-1982, Vice Chancellor to Royal Courts of ???????? Justice 86

Pepper Canister Church; St Stephen?s, Mount Street, Dublin where our parents married, 1941 20

Perry, Gerard; Editor, Rathfeigh Skryne Tara Newsletter, letter from and tribute to Elizabeth Hickey? ????? 120

Phillips, Geraldine; married Peter 1972 56

Pope; Rome, Robin and Peter had audience with 56

Porter and Irvine; Stockbrokers, Netta?s employer 56

Portora School; Uncle Gerald?s (Hickey) school 20

Potterton, Homan; A Childhood Recalled 58

Powell, Enoch M.P.; correspondence with Elizabeth Hickey on Green Cockatrice 88

Preston School; Navan, Eoin?s School 7, 57

QE 2; Robin and Kay world trip 56

R.A.F.; Hamish (uncle) Sergeant Pilot 39

Raeburn; pupil of Green; portrait of Pennycuick 78

Rainier, Captain Peter; Painting by Thomas Hickey 25

Rainier, Colin; Wexford, Captain Peter Rainier?s g. grandson 25

Rathcline; Co. Longford, Rev. James Farrell (our g. g. g. grandfather) Rector of 1795-1834 85

Rathcormack; Homan Potterton, A Childhood Recalled 58

Rathfeigh Skryne Tara Newsletter; letter from and tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 120

Rawlings, Commander H.C.; EC Malet?Warden (our grandfather) served with 35

Reid, Nanno; Artist, illustrations for I Send My Love Along the Boyne by Elizabeth Hickey 87

Restaurant Drouant; Paris, Robin worked here 56

Rice, Fr. Gerard; President MAHS, tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 122

Rochester; Scotland, (early home of our mother) 8

Roermond; Limburg, Holland; where Hamish Malet-Warden shot down 1941 55

Romania; our mother and Aunt Bryda went birdwatching in 1989 115

Rooskey; weekend researching Sarah Farrell 118

Rose’s Academical Institution; Nairn, early school of our mother 8

Royal Chelsea Hospital; memorial to battle with Pennycuick?s name on it 78

Royal Dublin Society Schools; Thomas Hickey trained 25

Royal Indian Marine; Arthur Warden Lt. 29

Royal Naval Engineering College; Plymoth, EC Malet-warden (our grandfather) entered in 1901 29

Royal Tara Golf Club; formally Bellinter Golf Club 7

Royce; Sir Henry of Rolls Royce, cousin of Annie Husband, our great grandmother 27

Ryan, John; In Dublin Magazine 19

Ryevale Lawns; housing development in Leixlip by Eoin 58

S.S. Historian; RS Hickey, (our grandfather) journey to India 1876 22

Saint Finian; The Irish Life of Saint Finian of Clonard by Elizabeth Hickey, 1995 88

Santry Stadium 6

Santry, Lord; trial of 112

Saunders, Mrs, Phill; ?Instructions for taking care of Skryne Castle 1965? 119

Shakespeare; ?Was Shakespeare a Nobleman?s Son? The Green Cockatrice by Elizabeth Hickey (aka. ????? Basil Iske) 87

Shanahan Desmond and Mrs.; Shanahan’s Stamp Auctions 7

Sheridan, Monica; visitor to Skryne Castle 4

Singer, Dr. Paul; Shanahan’s Stamp Auctions 7

Skryne And The Early Normans; Skryne And The Early Normans by Elizabeth Hickey 87

Skryne Castle; our home 2, 4, 20, 87, 115, 118

Skryne Court 116

Skryne National School 58, 117

Skryne, Hill of; No More Sausage Man, contemporary history of Skryne by Elizabeth Hickey 115

Sleive Gullion; Jonesboro, at the foot of, Geraldine?s home 56

Smith, Master; Skryne N.S. 116

Smith, Paddy; travelling man with dancing doll 1950s 116

Smith, Sr. Carmel; tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 122

St. Bartholomew’s Church; Brighton, ?extremely high church? attended by Amy Woodhead 98

St. Colmcille; church Skryne 115

St. Columba’s College; Rathfarnham, our father?s school 20

St. Lo, Sir Edward Mallet; Ambassador to Russia in 1890s 34

St. Martha’s College; Navan, Caroline?s Domestic Science College 59

St. Mary’s Church; Navan, Elizabeth Hickey?s funeral service 119

St. Michaelmas Church; Brighton, Parish Church, several Woodheads married here 99

St. Paddy; Derby winner 1961, at stud Killeen Castle 57

St. Patrick; ?stories lovingly told?, I Send My Love Along the Boyne by Elizabeth Hickey 1966 87

St. Stephen’s Green; No.18; early home to our parents in 1940s 9, 13, 14, 20

St. Vincent’s Hospital Nursing Home; Caroline?s employer 59

Sterling, Charles; our cousin, Aunt Bryda?s eldest son 29

Stewart, Sir. Harry; hunting in India with RS Hickey 1892 22

Stonehall Churchyard; burial place of our grandparents and Hickey ancestors including Sophia Blaney ???? Sunderland (Hickey) 23

Suez Canal; journey to India 1876 by Robert Hickey ?(our grandfather) 22

Sunderland, Sophia Blaney 4

Wilma Hickey is married to Robert William Fayrer Hickey of Penrith, Australia, g. g. g. grandson of Noah Hickey d.1825 and Sophia Blaney Sutherland m1792 (b.Stonehall). Wilma, as ?well as discussing the 1st and 2nd Dukes of Sutherland, has provided us with much information on Sophia Blaney Sutherland, and her father William Sutherland (1741-1789) ??? including a detailed account of his military career. Of particular interest is his involvement in the Battle of Lexington in 1775, the first engagement of the American Revolutionary War, ?and he even may have been responsible for firing the first shot!

Swale, Colin; married to Rosie Griffin 58

Swale, Rosie; (nee Griffin, Newcastle, Askeaton, Co Limerick), author of Rosie Darling, account of sailing around the world 58

Swan, Jimmy; No More Sausage Man, contemporary history of Skryne by Elizabeth Hickey 115

Sweden, King of; Bernadotte 1818, m. Desiree Clary, ancestor of Nora 57

Swift, Jonathan; Dean, bust in St. Patrick?s Cathedral of, presented by Sir Frederick Richard Falkiner (our g. g. g. grandfather?s son) 103

Sylvia, Hickey; aunt 18

T.C.D. Library; archive of part of Elizabeth Hickey?s papers 121

Talbot, family; lived at old Protestant rectory, Skryne 116

Tara, Co Meath 4

Tara; The Legend Of Tara, by Elizabeth Hickey 1952 87

Taughman; Rectory, Westmeath, Rev. Noah Sydney Hickey, Rector (our g. grandfather) 19

Terry, Mr. and Mrs. Fred; friends of our grandfather EC Malet-Warden 35

The Country Shop; a St Stephen?s Green well known landmark 14

Green Cockatrice; The Green Cockatrice 1978 by Elizabeth Hickey (aka Basil Iske) 87

Thesiger, Wilfred; explorer, his mother was Vigors from Bagenalstown, cousin of Cousin Esther 91

Townshend, George; IV Viscount, painting of, by Thomas Hickey in Mansion House 25

Trench, Terry; friend of our mother?s 112

Tributes to Elizabeth Hickey:

– Sr. Carmel Smith; tribute to Elizabeth Hickey 122
Rathfeigh Skryne Tara Newsletter; letter from and tribute 120
– Thomas Murray, Poet; The Meath Chronical,? 120
– Diarmuid O’Mhathuna; The O?Mahony Journal, 122
? -Prince Michael of Greece; sincere letter of sympathy 122
– Fr. Gerard Rice; President MAHS, tribute in
Rioch Na Midhe 122
– Eileen Battersby;
Irish Times tribute 122.
– Roy Garland, columnist
Irish News; tribute 122 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Trinity College Dublin; our mother graduated in 1935 and Kay, Robin?s wife in early 1970s 14, 56

Truman, President Harry 58

Tutu, Bishop; SA, ordained by Bishop Paddy Barron, our father?s first cousin 105

U.C.D.; our mother studied archaeology here 5

United Servicemen’s Club; St, Stephen?s Green, Caroline?s employer 59

Valerie; Caroline’s daughter 59

Valerie and her husband Matthew Bennett live in Australia with their two children Alice and James Patrick.

Versailles Palace; wedding of Camille Natta, 2007 28

Victoria, Queen 104

Vigors, Col. Phillip; married Margret Woodhead b.1850, mother of Esther O?Grady 90

Vigors, Esther; Cousin Esther 90

Wade’s Folklore; Collection including The Hickeys of Taughmon, given to us by Michael Conlon, Historian, Castlepollard, Co Westmeath 23

Walsh, Michael; Nicholas Viscount Netterville (g. g. g. g. grandfather) indicted for murder of 112

Woodhead, H. G. Wandesforde (first cousin to our grandmother Agnes) was editor of The Peking Times and Tientsin Times. Judy Bennett (H. G. W.s granddaughter) has given us beautifully presented copies of The Woodhead Family and Robert Comber Woodhead, Captain, 1886- 1916, her great uncle, killed at the Battle of The Somme. Both of these record, with photographs, the lives of HGW, Robert and other members of the Woodhead family in great detail.

Wandesforde, Sir Christopher; Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1640, (our g x 6 grandfather). 91

Sir Christopher is buried in Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin. We received a kind letter and extensive account of Sir Christopher from Stuart Kinsella, Archivist at Christ Church. Judy ? Bennett has also has also sent us reports of members of her family?s visit to Kirklington Church and Kirklington Hall, and to Stonegrave to see the tombs and memorials to the Combers and Thorntons.

??????????????? Memoirs of the life and death of the Right Honourable the Lord Deputy Wandsforde is a wonderful account, acquired by Netta, of Wandesforde?s life written by his great, great ?????? grandson in 1778.

In January 2015 we received an email from Patricia Comber of Argentina. Patricia is a descendant of Henry George Wandesforde Comber, brother of Harriet Comber who married ?Joseph Woodhead.

Warden, Arthur; Royal Indian Marine, married Annie Husband, (our g. grandmother)

Warden, Elizabeth; our mother 8

Waters, Tony; butcher, Hill of Skryne, 1950s 115

Wemyss-Brown; Charles F.; Scottish historian 26

Wilkinson and Faulkner; Stockbrokers, Eoin?s employer 57

Wilkinson, Jock; neighbour at Skryne 117

William the Conqueror; Malets ?one of the few familys said to have come over with? 26

Wodehouse; Sir Armine Wodehouse, painting by Thomas Hickey 1773 25

Women’s Royal Naval Service; mother urged to join 16, 31

Woodhead, family; Brighton 89

Woodhead H.G.W; H. G. Wandesforde Woodhead, C.B.E. 1883-1959 99

Judy Bennett, UK, granddaughter of H. G. Wandesforde Woodhead, C.B.E. 1883-1959, editor of The Peking Times and Tientsin Times.? Judy has given us beautifully presented copies of The Woodhead Family and Robert Comber Woodhead, Captain, 1886-1916, her great uncle, killed at the Battle of The Somme. Both of these reference HGW, Robert and other members of the Woodhead family in great detail.

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Woodhead, Ada Constance; (our g. g. aunt), b1859 92

Woodhead, Amy Christina; (our g. g. aunt), b1861 92

Woodhead, Capt. Henry Joseph Plumridge; 1820-1903, (our g. g. grandfather) 89

Woodhead, Clementina; nee Clements, 1852-1925, (our g. g. grandmother) 89

Woodhead, Edith; (our g. g. aunt), b1862 92

Woodhead, Emily Alice; (our g. g. aunt), b1848 92

Woodhead, Grace Eyre; (our g. g. aunt), b1864, she founded Brighton Guardianship Society, devoted ???? to care of handicapped children. The foundation is still in existence. 92

Woodhead, Henry Comber; (our g. g. uncle), b1851 90

Woodhead, Hilda; (our g. g. aunt), b1865 92

Woodhead, Joseph; b1774 (our g. g. g. grandfather) 89

Woodhead, Margaret Caroline; (our g. g. aunt), b1850, Esther O?Grady?s mother 90

Woodhead, Mary Josephine, born in Florence, (our g. g. aunt), b1847 90

Woodhead, Maud Helena; (our g. g. aunt), b1855 92

Woodhead; Robert Comber Woodhead, Captain, 1886-1916; Judy Bennett, Robert?s great niece, has ???????? given us a beautifully presented copy of? Robert Comber Woodhead, Captain, 1886-1916, her ????????? great uncle, killed at the Battle of The Somme. Here it records, with photographs, Robert?s story and information on other members of the Woodhead family in great detail.

Woodhead, Thomas Wandesforde; (Womby) b1854, (our g. g. uncle), 91

Woodruff, Charles; our cousin, 29, 119

Woodruff, George; our cousin, 29, 119

Woodruff, Henry; our cousin, 29, 119

Woodruff, James; married Aunt Bryda 29, 119

Worsnip, Alan; SA, m. Wendy 104

Worsnip, Janice and Lawrence; SA, Wendy?s children 104

Worsnip, (nee Barron) Wendy; Umptentwini, SA, our second cousin 104, 106

York, City of; trip to, led by our mother 114

Story of the Family of Wandesforde of Kirklington and Castlecomer

Hi all,

A great day today on the ancestral front. We discovered the existence of a book published in 1904 entitled?Story of the Family of Wandesforde of Kirklington and Castlecomer by W. C. McCall.

It is a huge tome, taking the genealogy back to 1066. I am attaching three images taken from it. One shows a knight in armour, almost certainly John de Wandesforde, who died in 1395. The next is the tomb of Sir Christopher Wandesforde and the last is an early image of the family home at Kirklington Hall.

I took lots of images of the book, in a remote farmhouse, very generous hosts, we must try and get a copy of this book.?then to Middleham Castle, base of RIchard III, where Warwick the Kingmaker kept Edward IV prisoner,?all this on a glorious warm Indian summer day.
To Oxford tomorrow,

Charles

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Sir Christopher Wandesford

Dear Eoin,

Ceni Owen at Christ Church passed on to me?your contact details regarding Sir Christopher?Wandesford and Christ Church.

I’m afraid that there is nothing to see at the?cathedral these days, but he died on 3 December,?and was buried in the choir of the cathedral on 7?December 1640. He was such an admired ruler -?he was lord deputy of Ireland – that he was one?of the only people to be professionally ‘caoin’ed?or keened (as in the Irish ‘ag caoineadh’, for ‘crying’)?on his death by the Irish and not just the English.

The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography,?describes it thus:?’He died at Dublin on 3 December 1640 and was?buried there, in Christ Church, seven days later.?His funeral sermon was preached by Bramhall,?one of the executors of his will. According to his?daughter, the Irish ‘did sett up their lamentable?hone, as they call it, for him in the church, which?was never knowne before for any Englishman don’?(Autobiography of Mrs Alice Thornton, 26).?A monument was erected in the choir – it is unclear?where – and this was noted and roughly drawn by?Thomas Dineley when he visited Ireland in 1680.

I attach the account of Dineley, and the image that?he drew of the monument.

No entry for him appears in the Dictionary of Irish?Biography, but I’ve pasted in the full entry from the?Oxford Dictionary of National Biography below.

Many thanks for your interest.
Best wishes,
Stuart

 

Fiona Pogson, ‘Wandesford, Christopher (1592-1640)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, Jan 2008 [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/28662, accessed 15 Nov 2014]

Wandesford, Christopher (1592-1640), politician and administrator, was born at Bishop Burton, near Beverley, Yorkshire, on 24 September 1592 and baptized there on 18 October. He was the son of Sir George Wandesford (1573-1612), landowner, of Kirklington, Yorkshire, and Catherine, daughter of Ralph Hansby of Gray’s Inn. He attended school at Well, together with his kinsman Thomas Wentworth, later earl of Strafford, and matriculated from Clare College, Cambridge, in Michaelmas 1610. He was admitted to Gray’s Inn on 1 November 1612, but the death of his father that year forced him to attend to an estate much of which was leased out at uneconomic rents and burdened with debts. Prudent management of his financial resources enabled him to free the estate from wardship, provide for his brothers and sisters, and, by 1630, to spend at least ?1600 in improvements to his seat at Kirklington. Wandesford is said by Lodge to have married, as his first wife, a daughter of William Ramsden of Byrom, Yorkshire, but this seems highly unlikely. On 22 September 1614 he married Alice (1592-1659), only daughter of Sir Hewett Osborne. She was sister to Sir Edward Osborne, vice-president, under Wentworth, of the council of the north. They had seven children, five of whom survived to adulthood, including Alice [see Thornton, Alice], whose autobiography presents the marriage as a very happy one.

MP for Yorkshire
Wandesford sat for Aldborough, Yorkshire, in the parliaments of 1621 and 1624, and probably gained a seat at Richmond in 1625 and 1626 through his friendship with Wentworth; in 1626 he appears to have considered challenging Sir John Savile and his son Thomas for a county seat. In July 1625 he was placed on the commission of the peace for the North Riding. Wandesford was particularly active in the 1626 parliament, taking a leading role in the Commons’ attack on the duke of Buckingham, handling the especially dangerous charge of administering medicine to James I. In consequence he was removed from the commission of the peace and issued with a privy seal loan demand of ?100. He remarked to Wentworth that ‘when the privy seals cum, I think itt will be the proportion only that shall trouble me’ (Strafford papers, 16/242), but his willingness to accept that the king might be entitled to some form of non-parliamentary revenue did not extend to the forced loan. His refusal to pay did not result in imprisonment, in contrast to his kinsmen Wentworth and Sir George Radcliffe, although he kept them company in London for part of the summer of 1627. By the autumn he was anticipating the calling of another parliament, making preparations to keep Wentworth’s ‘syde warme by the bar agayne’ (Strafford papers, 20/262), and asking his friend to use his influence with Coryton and Seymour to secure him a west country seat in case he should fail in his native county. His letters to Wentworth from the autumn and winter of 1627-8 reveal his hopes for a more moderate stance by the Commons: ‘if the howse doe mete, I pray God send them the discrete mixture of patience and curradge to apply the proper cure to thess bleeding wounds’. What was needed was a more circumspect approach:

The miseryes, or injuryes (call them as you please) fallen upon perticuler persons will not possess them so totally as to make them neglect the prosecution of the whole; save the ship first and then punish the neglect of thoss mariners that brought her into hazard.(Strafford papers, 16/261; 20/262)

Wandesford sat for Thirsk in 1628, through Wentworth’s influence with the Bellasis family. On 5 June, following the king’s demand that the Commons avoid any business that might lay scandal upon the state, he supported the remonstrance with the complaint that ‘we are taxed with puritanism, faction, popularity’ (Johnson, Keeler, and others, 4.124). Throughout the session he played a less prominent role than in 1626, when Wentworth had been absent, but Wentworth’s removal to the Lords before the next session placed Wandesford once again in an important position. On 2 March 1629 he spoke against Holles’s proposal that no merchant be permitted to pay tonnage and poundage, having argued, together with John Pym, for a more moderate approach to the problem.

Wentworth’s appointment as president of the council of the north brought benefits for Wandesford, the first being his restoration to the commission of the peace in December 1628. The following year he was added to the commission of the peace for the West Riding and the northern commission for compounding with recusants, and he was successful in his efforts to replace Sir Thomas Hoby as chief seneschal of the manor of Ripon. In 1630 he was granted further northern offices, including the posts of deputy bailiff of Richmondshire and deputy constable of Richmond and Middleham castles. He was rumoured to have been offered the ambassadorship to Spain in 1630, and to be a candidate for the post of master of the wardrobe in March 1632, but he took up office in Ireland in 1633 following Wentworth’s appointment as lord deputy. Wandesford explained why he had rejected the ‘private and countrey life’ which he recommended to his son:

my Affection to the Person of my Lord Deputy, purposing to attend upon his Lordship as near as I could in all Fortunes, carryed me along with him whithersoever he went . no Hopes, no Promises, indeed, no Assurance of a greater Fortune, could have tempted me from the security of my own Retiredness, but the Comfort I took in his Friendship and Conversation. (Wandesford, 62-3)

Irish official
Wandesford had assisted Wentworth with his personal and political affairs since at least 1620. While living in London during the early 1620s, Wandesford had acted as Wentworth’s ‘ambassadour’ (Wentworth to Wandesford, 30 July 1623, Strafford papers, 2.105), sending him court news and handling his business with Sir Arthur Ingram. Their surviving correspondence reveals the closeness of their friendship: during Wentworth’s imprisonment in 1627 they maintained a ‘wekely discourse’ (Wandesford to Wentworth, 9 Sept 1627, ibid., 16.261) in which they shared their views on political developments. Wandesford was prepared to offer Wentworth frank advice and in July 1628 he informed Wentworth of the generally unfavourable response in the West Riding to his elevation to the peerage. By the early 1630s he regularly conveyed messages to Wentworth from the lord treasurer, Weston, and waited on Wentworth’s other political contacts at court. Wandesford and Radcliffe formed the core of the team that Wentworth assembled in Dublin, and their devoted and capable service was emphasized by Wentworth in his reports to his political allies and colleagues.

Wandesford was sworn of the Irish privy council on 25 July 1633. He had already been granted the mastership of the rolls in Ireland on 17 May, initially for the duration of Wentworth’s deputyship, a restriction that might suggest that the king initially harboured doubts about a man who had been instrumental in the attempted impeachment of Buckingham. In March 1634, however, the post was granted to him for life. Also in 1634 Wandesford was appointed to a small committee established to examine alleged exactions by Irish office-holders, and his seat on the court of castle chamber assisted Wentworth in his efforts to control all organs of government. In the 1634-5 parliament Wandesford was MP for Kildare, after Richard Boyle, earl of Cork, declined to secure him one of the seats that he controlled. Wandesford accompanied Wentworth to Connaught in 1635 during the lord deputy’s preparations for plantation, and he served as one of the lords justices during Wentworth’s two visits to England: in 1636, with Viscount Loftus, and in 1639, with Lord Dillon. He assisted the earl of Ormond in his land dispute with Sir Thomas Butler, and enjoyed good relations with John Bramhall, bishop of Derry, whose living of Elvington lay close to Kirklington. His letters to Bramhall of the late 1630s show him to have become apprehensive about the growing crisis in Scotland and its impact on the other Stuart kingdoms.

It would seem likely that Wandesford, as well as Radcliffe, was offered a knighthood in 1633, and his refusal might, as Comber suggested, have been prompted by consideration of his financial situation. Unlike Radcliffe, he did not buy into the Irish customs farm, and he seems to have relied on the profitable mastership of the rolls to purchase and invest an Irish estate. Following his death, the king issued instructions that fees payable to Irish officers be reduced and the mastership was given particular emphasis. In 1635 Wandesford bought an estate in the Naas, co. Kildare, where, during the autumn of 1636, he completed his Book of Instructions for his son, not published until 1777. In 1637, having sold the land to Wentworth, Wandesford acquired Castlecomer and 20,000 acres of largely undeveloped land in Idough, co. Kilkenny, known as ‘Brennan’s country’, where he rebuilt the house, built a market town, planted woods, and founded collieries and a forge. The expulsion of the Brennans appears to have troubled Wandesford, as his will included an offer of compensation. Their claim was, however, quashed by decree in 1695 following their support for the Jacobite cause.
Lord deputy, death, and descendants

Wandesford was elected MP for Kildare again in 1640. He was then appointed lord deputy on 1 April 1640, following Wentworth’s elevation to the lieutenancy in January and an apparently successful parliamentary session in March during which four subsidies were voted. According to Comber, Wandesford was granted the titles Baron Mowbray and Musters and Viscount Castlecomer on his appointment as lord deputy, a mark of honour that he rejected with the remark ‘Is it a fit Time for a faithful Subject to appear higher than usual when the King, the Fountain of Honours, is likely to be reduced lower than ever?’ (Comber, 121-2). Wandesford’s term in office was short and unpleasant. Parliament reassembled in June and he was forced to allow writs to be sent to the seven boroughs deprived of representation by Wentworth in 1635, leading to increased Old English representation in the Commons. His attempts to secure legislation confirming the plantation of Connaught failed when the bill was apparently dropped. On 13 June he was not able to prevent the Commons from rejecting the new method by which the subsidies were to be levied. In these actions Old English representatives evidently received a measure of support from protestant members. Wandesford’s letter to Radcliffe, dated 12 June, expressed his anxiety at the combination of ‘the Irish’ with ‘those of our owne partye (as we call them)’ (Whitaker, Life, 249-50): the willingness of protestant members to entrust matters to committees on which Catholics were in the majority suggests a degree of co-operation against the administration. The lord deputy could not count on the assistance of the whole council: the absence of some on military duties was not helpful, but the remaining councillors failed to support the government wholeheartedly. Wandesford could find few to praise in his report to Radcliffe.

Parliament reassembled on 1 October and proved no less difficult to manage than it had been in June. Wandesford’s need to finance the Irish army left him with little choice but to hold parliament. He attempted to recover some of the ground lost in June in his refusal to send writs to the disputed boroughs, but the Commons put in place a new method of assessment for the three subsidies yet to be collected that would reduce their yield from an anticipated ?45,000 to about ?12,000 each. The orders of 20 October and 11 November on this matter were torn out of the Commons’ journal by the lord deputy on the instructions of the king. Wandesford failed to prevent the house from passing the petition of remonstrance against Wentworth’s administration and naming a committee to present it to the king. He prorogued parliament on 12 November and ordered the committee to remain in Ireland, but the privy council’s removal of travel restrictions between the two countries enabled the committee to take the remonstrance to England. Wandesford appears to have had a very pleasant personality, lacking the abrasive, intimidatory characteristics possessed by Wentworth. In November 1640 Wentworth thought it necessary to insist, through Radcliffe, that Wandesford’s ‘old rule of moderate counsells will not serve his turne in cases of this extreamity; to be a fine, well-natured gentleman will not doe it’ (Whitaker, Life, 221). The same month Wandesford learned of Wentworth’s imprisonment, and before the end of November he was seriously ill of a fever. He died at Dublin on 3 December 1640 and was buried there, in Christ Church, seven days later. His funeral sermon was preached by Bramhall, one of the executors of his will. According to his daughter, the Irish ‘did sett up their lamentable hone, as they call it, for him in the church, which was never knowne before for any Englishman don’ (Autobiography of Mrs Alice Thornton, 26).

Wandesford was survived by his wife who died on 10 December 1659. Their third son, Christopher (b. 1628), was created a baronet on 5 August 1662. He married Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Lowther, and was father of Christopher (1656-1707), politician, the second baronet, later created Viscount Castlecomer, who married Elizabeth (d. 1731), daughter of the Hon. George Montagu of Horton, Northamptonshire.

Their eldest son, Christopher Wandesford, second Viscount Castlecomer (bap. 1684, d. 1719), politician and government official, was baptized at St Margaret’s, Westminster, on 2 March 1684. He was MP for St Canice in the Irish parliament in 1707 before succeeding to the peerage on the death of his father on 15 September 1707. He was appointed an Irish privy councillor in 1710 but then pursued a political career in England, sitting for Morpeth as a whig in 1710-13, and for Ripon from 1715 until his death. In 1713, with his brother-in-law Lord Newcastle and others, he founded the Hanover Club, and in May that year he spoke in parliament against a commercial clause of the treaty of Utrecht. In October 1714 George I appointed him a privy councillor and gave him the governorship of Kilkenny in September 1715. On 31 May 1715 he married the Hon. Frances, daughter of Thomas Pelham, first Baron Pelham, and their only child, Christopher, third Viscount Castlecomer, was born in 1717. He died at Newport Street, London, on 23 June 1719. His wife survived him, dying on 27 June 1756.

Fiona Pogson

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Archives ??Bodl. Oxf., letters to Sir George Radcliffe, MS Add. C. 286 [copies] ? NL Ire., corresp. with Ormonde ? Sheff. Arch., Wentworth Woodhouse Muniments, Strafford papers, corresp. with Thomas Wentworth
Likenesses ??portrait, exh. 1868; in possession of Alice Comber, 1904 ? G. P. Harding, watercolour drawing (after portrait, 1630), NPG ? portrait; in possession of Christopher, first Viscount Castlecomer, 1904
Wealth at death ??Yorkshire estate rent roll ?1060 p.a. by 1640; Irish estate worth several thousand pounds p.a.; Wandesford’s steward claimed that between Nov 1641 and April 1642 estate lost ?4000 in rents and rent arrears, plus ?3000 in goods and debts: Cliffe, Yorkshire gentry, 44; Lodge, Peerage of Ireland, 198

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Where’s Womby?

In search of the tomb of?Sir Christopher Wandesforde, Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1640.

By Christian Hickey

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Dear Fellow Grandchildren,

On a crisp November Saturday morning with my grandfather Eoin, we paid a visit to Christ Church?Cathedral in search of the tomb of my great (six times) grandfather, Sir Christopher Wandesforde?(1592-1640). See Dear Grandchildren P.91 and back cover. Christopher built Castlecomber House?where his family lived on until the 1970s. Today, I believe it is Castlecomber Discovery Park.

Granny Elizabeth was my Dad?s grandmother, her grandmother was Clementina Woodhead, and?Clementina?s brother was Thomas Wandsforde Woodhead (1854-1893) named Wandsforde after his?g. g. g. grandfather Sir Christopher and known to his friends (and relations!) as Womby.

We found the Cathedral very interesting and well worth a visit. A very pleasant receptionist,?Ceni, set us on our unguided tour. We scrutinized every plaque, statue and tombstone, including?Strongbow?s, descended into the gargantuan crypt where we watched an excellent video of the?history of the cathedral, but found no sign or mention of Sir Christopher.

As we were leaving, Ceni kindly offered to look up Sir Charles on her computer, to no avail, but then?she said, ?Our archivist, Dr. Stuart Kinsella has just arrived back to the cathedral from Germany.? She?immediately telephoned Stuart who confirmed that Sir Christopher was indeed buried there, but?had succumbed to the 19th?has kindly offered to email us any information he has on Sir Christopher.

Then, as we were about to depart for the second time, a smart young man named David approached?and offered to bring us on a guided tour of the belfry and to allow us to ring the bells. We couldn?t?resist such an offer and off we went to ascend the 102 spiral stone steps to the campanologists??chamber, high in the spire, beneath the bells, where David?s colleague Gale, both volunteers,?greeted us and our two fellow visitors who came from Estonia.

First we were shown the automated clockwork system that chimes the bells every 15 minutes.?They then went through the 19 sallies (ropes) hanging from the ceiling, and explained all the bells??different histories and chimes. Together they told all about 360 degree English bell ringing and how?proud they are of Christ Church?s success in national and international bell ringing competitions.?Traditionally the bell ringers gather on Friday evening?s and twice on Sunday, only having to give up?their bell ringing when they become too infirm to climb the steps!?century reconstruction of the Choir, under which he was buried. Stewart.

Next came our bell ringing opportunity ? to send our chimes to the assembled tourists of ancient?Dublin. The two Estonians and I quickly got into rhythm on three bells and we chimed away happily?for ten minutes. Descending the 102 steps, holding onto the rope, was a little bit easier than going?up, and with much satisfaction, we took our leave of the cathedral.

It was raining; we rushed across the road and took refuge in the Harding Hotel just in time to meet?our cousin, Aine, making her departure. There we enjoyed a soup and a sandwich and noticed the?poster proclaiming the star artist on stage for the following Wednesday night as 8:30pm, none other?than Cathal Hickey.

We await hearing from archivist, Dr. Stuart Kinsella and will keep you updated.

Christian.

Trip to Mount Melleray

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Update on Percy Barron (1835-1904) Monk at Mount Melleray, Cappaquinn, Co Waterford.

From; Eoin Hickey, 23rd?October 2014.

Nora and I went on tour in the South of Ireland last week and included a visit to Mount Melleray, hopefully to see Percy Barron?s grave.

Percy Barron was our grandmother?s (Isabel Emily Barron/Hickey) uncle ? see Dear Grandchildren p.106/7. We have a copy of the Fitzgerald pedigree which Percy had researched and written out for Isabel, titled ?Lineage of Isabel Emily Barron?. The pedigree traces back to William fitzMaurice, Baron of Kiltray, m. Alicia, sister of Strongbow. D. 1274 and beyond to Walter Fitz Otto mentioned in the Doomsday Book, 1078. We also have a copy of Percy?s long letter to his niece dated 20th?November 1894 where he goes through the pedigree and invites her to visit the monastery It is obvious from the letter that he is estranged from his Protestant family and that Emily Isabel is trying to ?break the ice?.

I had emailed the Lord Abbot two weeks earlier saying we were calling and would like to give the monastery copies of the letter and pedigree.??I had read on the internet that Percy was a scholar, worked extensively researching the Four Masters, died and was buried in Mount Mellary in 1904. (I can?t find this web site again so perhaps I dreamt it!). Mount Melleray has a very good website and on it they invite guests to visit their guest house, caf?, shop and museum.

We arrived Friday lunchtime and met a very long line of cars on the avenue coming away from a funeral. The monastery itself is enormous; church and monastery buildings to the front and extensive farm buildings to the rear, now quite deserted. We found an office marked ?Enquiries? with a very pleasant lady named Judith inside. We introduced ourselves, explained our mission and that we had sent an email. Judith advised that the monks are very old and don?t reply to correspondence, they don?t have an archive or records or library! We left Judith our letter and asked about the cemetery and Percy?s grave. She gave us a key and pointed the way. The cemetery, beside the church wall only contained monks? graves going back to mid-nineteen thirties. We left back the key and asked again. ?Oh yes, the older monks? graves are under the new church?.

We walked around to the front of the monastery and found an unlocked door leading to a hallway and a long empty chapel except for a lone old monk sitting quietly on a chair at the back wall who proved to be very helpful. He?s been there for seventy four years. He entered at age fourteen and told us that the new church was built on top the old monks? graves. A plaque on the wall outside commemorates the building of the new church in 1933. The old monk told us that while cutting a hedge, forty odd years ago, he found three wooden plaques in the ditch which he, himself, had carefully restored and he would like to show them to us. He brought us along through corridors and cloisters to where they were, mounted alone on a long white wall. The plaques are about 24? x 14?, each containing about twenty five names dating from 1830s to 1930s with two names for 1904; Fr. Stephen 23rd?May and Fr. Alexis 3rd?Aug. So, one of them must be Percy!

The monastery bell tolled, the old monk whispered that it was the ten minutes call to prayers, so we took our place in the church where we had a few minutes to gaze upon the elaborate stained glass window commissioned in the 1940s from the Harry Clarke Studios. Then the old and very old monks started to assemble for?None,?which means?ninth hour (since rising).?One monk played the organ, several read aloud and all sang or chanted. This lasted for about fifteen minutes after which we took our leave ? to search for a cup of tea!

As well as a very good website the monastery has fine publication which we purchased at the office. It covers the history of the Cistercians, coming back to Ireland in the early 1830s, searching for a place and finally settling in Mount Mellerary in 1835. The booklet, published in 2000, has excellent photographs including of the Harry Clarke Studio stained glass window with explanations of the main figures of the design and – a black and white photograph of a very fine library!

Wandesforde Vault

Hi All,

Today we began by visiting Kirklington church, where there is a vault containing Wandesforde ancestors. One of them, Christopher Wandesforde, was the father of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and his splendid tomb has an image of him holding a shield with the Wandesforde coat of arms, a rampant blue lion, see attached. There is also a memorial stained glass to a Wandesforde who died in the first war.

We then went to find Kirklington Hall, where Alice Wandesforde was born in the early 17th?century. It is very impressive, we met the current tenant who told us that the house is still owned by the Wandesforde family, and they also own half the village properties and land all round. The house was built in the 16th?century.

We then drove to Stonegrave, where the 8th?century foundation church is filled with tombs and memorials to the Combers and Thorntons, all ancestors. I am attaching an image of one of the early Thornton tombs.

Then, we drove to Castle Howard, scene of the filming of Brideshead Revisited, but didn?t go into the castle because of time issues. We arrived at about 4.00 pm for tea with John Willcox and his wife, Pauline. John was Oxford captain against us in 1961, and was also in Richard?s Oxford team in 1959. He played 18 times for England and for the British Lions in South Africa, and it was a very convivial and pleasant two hours before we returned to Richmond.

Charles Higham

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Letter from Tomas Moffett

Dear Mr Hickey,

Very many thanks for the copy of Dear Grandchildren.

From reading it, it?s obvious that the late Mrs Elizabeth Hickey was ?a woman for all seasons?, a lady who ?as Gaeilge? could be very aptly described as ?bean uasal, ildanach?.

And the account that yourself and your sister Netta give of her life and times and enthusiasms and family connections is very informative and entertaining, even if the reader isn?t related to Mrs Hickey or to any of the colourful characters encountered in the text.

The inclusion of so many family photographs adds great interest to the book, and although it was obviously written for your own grandchildren as an introduction to the history of their family, it deserves to find a much wider readership, just as the many achievements of the late Mrs Elizabeth Hickey deserve to be remembered and acknowledged.

Again many thanks.

Wishing you and your family all the very best.
Tomas Moffett

Nest ferch Rhys (Gt x 25 grandmother)

Nest ferch Rhys (1073 – 1136) was a Welsh princess who was renowned for her beauty.

From Cathal Hickey, Nanjing, China.

Here is my contribution to the website if you are interested.

Nest ferch Rhys (1073 – 1136) was a Welsh princess who was renowned for her beauty. Nest was the daughter of Prince Rhys ap Tewdwr . Her brother was Gruffydd ap Rhys – Prince of Deheubarth. After her father’s death in 1093, Deheubarth was conquered by the Normans and King Henry I of England appointed himself her protector. Nest is thought to have borne him two sons, Robert, Earl of Gloucester (born 1090) and Henry FitzRoy (FitzHenry) 1103?1158 .
Around 1095 King Henry decided to marry Nest to one of his followers, Gerald de Windsor, whom he appointed Constable of Pembroke, though evidentially Henry maintained visitation rights, hence the arrival of Henry FitzRoy eight years after Nest?s marriage to Gerald. (Henry was raised in Gerald?s household) . Consequently, Nest is the maternal progenitor of the FitzGerald dynasty, one of the most celebrated families of Ireland. Nest and Gerald had at least five children one of which was Maurice our great x 24 times grandfather. Nest was grandmother to Gerald of Wales, the historian and a nephew of Maurice.
.During Christmas 1109, Nest and her husband were visited by her cousin, Owain ap Cadwgan. The story goes that Owain was so taken with Nest’s beauty that he and fifteen companions attacked the castle of Cenarth Bychan, seized Nest, and carried her and her children off. Tradition also has it that Gerald escaped by jumping down the garderobe (i.e. the lavatory chute) to get away. The children were later returned to Gerald. Nest is said to have borne Owain two sons, Llywelyn and Einion, before finally being returned to her husband.
This abduction earned Nest the nickname “Helen of Wales” because it led to civil war on a small scale. Owain ap Cadwgan left the country to avoid retribution, whilst Owain’s father, Cadwgan ap Bleddyn, lost his own lands. Gerald waited for Owain to return to Wales, then ambushed and killed him in combat as retribution for kidnapping his wife and children.
After Gerald’s death, Nest became the lover of Stephen, Constable of Cardigan, by whom she had another son, Robert Fitz-Stephen who died in 1182. With his half-brother Maurice, our ancestor, he captured the town of Wexford in 1169. They were granted joint custody of the town.
There are several works of historical fiction which chronicle the life of Nest, or Nesta as she is popularly known, which include:

Alderson, Bryan, ?Nesta:The Story of a Welsh Princess?Fairburn, Eleanor, “The Golden Hive”
Knight, Bernard, “Lion Rampant”
Orford, Margaret, “Royal Mistress”.
Bell, Anne, “Daughter of the Dragon”
McKinlay, Margaret, “Pawns of Kings”

We are directly descended from Nest and we share that distinction with a number of people of note, including,

Winston Churchill (Great X 20 Grandmother)
Lady Diana (Great X 24 Grandmother)
Louis XVII (Great X 21 Grandmother)
George I (Great X 17 Grandmother)

Sophia Blaney Sutherland

Our great great great grandmother, Sophia Blaney Sutherland, the wife of Noah Hickey of Dublin

Our great great great grandmother, Sophia Blaney Sutherland, the wife of Noah Hickey of Dublin and mother of the Rev. Noah Sydney Hickey was a resourceful women who corresponded with the Duke of Sutherland in February 1833 seeking his financial support for herself and her five grandchildren.

Earlier the Duke had ?put forward? her son (Rev Noah Sydney Hickey) to take religious orders.

At the time of writing to the Duke Sophia was a widow . Her husband had been the partner in a failed business in Calcutta leaving Sophia ?without means to purchase food? for her children.

The Duke graciously came to her assistance.

As yet little is known about Sophia’s pedigree. Her father was Capt William Sutherland of the 45 Regiment. A Blaney family were tenants of the Duke of Sutherland but it is not known if they were related to Sophia.

For further information and imagers of the letters go to www.sutherlandcollection.org.uk/

Message from Woodhead relative.

I too am a great great granddaughter of Henry Joseph Plumridge Woodhead and found your wonderful family history site today when looking through the Google entries for my late grandfather, Henry George Wandesforde Woodhead who you mention as being one of the two sons of Thomas ‘Wombie’ Woodhead and who was a journalist and newspaper Editor in China for all his working life.

I too am a great great granddaughter of Henry Joseph Plumridge Woodhead and found your wonderful family history site today when looking through the Google entries for my late grandfather, Henry George Wandesforde Woodhead who you mention as being one of the two sons of Thomas ‘Wombie’ Woodhead and who was a journalist and newspaper Editor in China for all his working life. Like you, I have started to compile my family history for our grandchildren, although it will never be as expertly done as yours and I would have no idea how to present it all so professionally on the internet for others to enjoy – congratulations on your wonderful ‘site’!

I am the daughter of the fifth of HGW Woodhead’s six children – he had three boys and three girls and my mother Marian Elizabeth, or ‘Betty’ as she was always called, died aged 86 in 2003. Her younger sister, Margaret Louise (‘Peggy’) died 18 months ago and it was while I was sadly clearing her flat in Barmouth, North Wales, near to where we now live in retirement, that I found some portraits of our ancestors, including the well-known Ingres portrait of Joseph and Harriet Woodhead, (Henry Joseph Plumridge Woodhead’s parents) with Harriet’s brother Henry Comber, one of Henry JP Woodhead himself and another two of his son Thomas Wandesford (my great grandfather). That aroused my interest, as did letters from Thomas to his sister Alice, and now, here I am, thinking about family history almost every minute and spending far too much time sitting in front of my computer doing research! Luckily for me I have two cousins in New Zealand, the eldest two of the four sons of my late Aunt Eileen who was the eldest of HGW Woodhead’s children, who had already done extensive research on the Wandesford, Comber and Woodhead families and they shared their research with me, which gave me a flying start.

I am so delighted to have found your site by a lucky accident and would love to share any information about the Woodhead and Clements families. Search as I may I simply cannot find the origins of Henry JP Woodhead’s father Joseph and it would be too good to be true if you can help! I know he was born in 1774 and died in 1866 in Brighton, and there is almost too much information on the internet about his business affairs as a banker and naval agent, his bankruptcy in 1816, etc. I have a date for his second marriage to Harriet Comber in Sidmouth Devon in 1815 and also the date his first wife died in Valletta on Malta in 1814. But I simply cannot get any further back from him with certainty as there are so, so many ‘Joseph Woodheads’ (mostly from Yorkshire where the Combers came from which makes me wonder whether his parents also came from there before moving to London where our Joseph was born) that I am finding it impossible to know which of the many he might be, and I would be so, so grateful if amongst all your wonderful photos and letters about the Woodhead family you have any information about his origins, or even just a clue which could be the ‘missing link’!

If there is any information at all about the Woodheads or Clements families that you could send me I would be absolutely delighted and so grateful and would of course reimburse you for any postal costs involved if post would be easier than the internet. I am sure you know so much more than I do; have any of your family visited Brighton where I recently went to see 12 Norfolk Terrace? It is a huge Georgian terraced house (rather essential for a family with 12 children!) in a rather beautiful tree-lined road leading down a hill to the sea front and it must be worth a fortune – what a shame none of the substantial family fortune filtered down to our generation! I can send you a photograph of the house if you would like one. I also visited St. Nicholas’s Church which was where many Woodhead family baptisms and weddings were held and it was a rather strange feeling walking up the aisle where they all walked so long ago. I am returning to Sussex (where luckily one of our sons now lives with his family) in July and will then find Belvedere Terrace where Joseph and Harriet Woodhead lived, and also go to the Extra Mural Cemetery to find the family vault. While I was in Sussex I went to Old Heathfield where as you will know, as well as living in their Brighton house, Henry and Emily were tenants for many years in a beautiful Queen Anne house in extensive grounds – what a ‘holiday cottage’ that must have been! Sadly it was replaced in the early 1900s by an Edwardian one which is not nearly as attractive as the original. I have made contact with a local historian who has recently sent me information about the Woodhead family from parish magazines which show how much they were loved by the villagers. Henry JP was a very well-thought of school governor and he also contributed to the repair of the church steeple and to Queen Victoria’s jubilee commemorative window. Emily held the yearly children’s ‘Treat’ at Heathfield House – no mean undertaking with nearly 200 children attending!

I must stop – as you can tell I am so thrilled to have found other Woodhead family members from our ‘branch’ who share my great great grandparents.
With all good wishes and I do so hope I shall hear from you.

From the Nunnery to the Castle

In the Summer of 1968 or ’69 I was marooned in the convent in Stamullen, Co Meath. Kindly Nora & Eoin, who were dating at the time decided to visit me and I begged of them to take me with them. Anything to escape my present enclosure! I was prepared to go on the car rack if necessary so I promised to sit quietly in the back seat and they were free to ignore me!

Anyway off we went and was I glad (at the time I was stationed in California, but was obliged to spend some time in a convent during my stay in Ireland). I remember we stopped off at the beach in Gormanston and took some photos and I still have one of Eoin & myself there. Looking at it now, I think we were all so young … where have all the years gone ? Later that evening we arrived at Skryne Castle and were warmly greeted by Mrs. Hickey.

Nora & Eoin left us to attend a dance in the locality and Elizabeth and I had a most pleasant evening. We chatted about many things and looked at some family albums. Initially, I thought I would be scared sleeping in a castle for the first time! One conjures visions of ghosts etc ! Quite the contrary I was very relaxed thanks to the welcome and graciousness of my hostess.

The following day we set off for Waterford, where Nora was working at the Tower Hotel. In the afternoon of the same day, Nora and I picked up some chicken and had a picnic on the beach. At a later time, I think the next day, Nora took me to the train station where I boarded a train for Limerick. Many years later, I have thought back on the whole event, and realized what I had imposed on my sister and her boyfriend… they must have needed me like a sore head … not to mention burdening her future mother-in law with my presence!

I’m sure I was the first nun to stay at Scryne Castle which was also one of my first outings with Nora & Eoin. I’ m happy to say we have had many more great occasions since then and eagerly await many more times together in the future God willing.

Therese Byrnes-Lally